Tuesday, December 22, 2009

A busy Christmastide...

Obviously, the Gottesdienst Online editors have been as busy as the rest of you during this run up to the Yule. But here's a couple of quick items:

* Don't forget to join in the all the Gottesdienst and Sabre of Boldness festivities in Fort Wayne next month.

* Don't forget that St. John's Day replaces the First Sunday after Christmas on Dec. 27.

* If you have a New Year's Eve service, consider using the propers for Jan 1, Name and Circumcision of our Lord. The traditional readings are wonderful with a one verse Gospel lesson.

* And finally, we bring you a Protestant miracle, courtesy of my wife's kitchen:


  1. Mrs. Curtis has hired a Protestant cook? Is that kind of thing done where you come from? ;-)

  2. It is a miracle! You ought to charge people to view it. :-)

  3. I thought the Sundays of Christmas took precedent.

  4. Rev. Alkorn,

    Not historically - though LSB seems to suggest it. But historically St. Stephens, St. John, and Holy Innocents are celebrated if they fall on Sunday.


  5. My own personal suggestion for the 31st, where possible, would be mass in the morning for the feast of Saint Sylvester, and in the evening First Vespers of the Christmas Octave & Circumcision.

  6. Re. the Sunday within the Octave of Christmas:

    According to the pre-1962 revision of the Roman calendar, this Mass is assigned to the 30th of December, regardless of the of the week upon which it falls. St. Stephen, St. John and Holy Innocents are celebrated even if any of them falls on Sunday. December 30th is the only free day during the octave. Dec. 29 is St. Thomas Becket, and the 31st is St. Syvester.

    It is curious to note that the 1962 revision of the calendar for the Latin Mass makes no mention of the Sunday within the Octave.

  7. I believe we had this discussion a year or more ago, perhaps it was at historiclectionary.com, I don't remember.

    I have not seen the evidence that this is a universally accepted history, though I am not saying it isn't. It's just that in the liturgical books I have seen discussing the precedence of feasts, I don't recall anything about this.

    St. Stephen, St. John, and Holy Innocents are Feasts of the Second Class, and the Sunday after Christmas is either a Sunday of the First Class or of the Second Class, I can't remember which. In either case it would take precedence, it seems to me, unless there is some special rule of precedence I have not seen.

  8. Fr BFE,

    The old Missals ID Christmas Day as a Double of tge 1st Class with an Octave. St. Stephen, St. John and Holy Innocents are listed as Doubles of the 2nd Class with an Octave. Commemorations of Christmas, via the Collect, are to be included on these days.

    The Sunday Within the Octave of Christmas has no rank assigned to it. Should the 29th or the 31st be a Sunday, a commemoration of made of St Thomas or St Sylvester before that of Christmas. I either of these cases the Mass celebrated is the 3rd Mass of Christmas Day using the Epistle and Gospel of the 2nd Mass of Christmas Day.

    Other than stating that the Mass of the Sunday Within the Octave is assigned to December 30, nothing more is indicated.

    From this I would conclude that the Mass of the SWO is not privileged in its own right; but yields to the five 2nd class feasts within the Christmas Octave.


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