Maybe something like this: "The fact that God can speak from the mouth of an ass doesn't suggest that we should fire all our pastors, burn all our Bibles, and convert our churches into petting zoos."
My three oldest kids--17, 19, & 23-- watched/listened to this with me last night. They were all so disturbed by it that we all lost sleep because of the venting/conversation that followed. What especially bothers them is that this is what their cousins are learning to look forward to, and that these are the kids that they'll be sharing the LC-MS with in years to come.(If those kids stick around.) The sermon was bad. The service looked like an evangelical youth event with a little bit of "Lutheran" inserted. There was no reverence. I spent my 20 & part of my 30's dealing with the confusion brought on by LYE, playing "They'll Know We Are Christians by Our Love" on my guitar in church, and my involvement with Young Life. It's only by the grace of God--and the tenacity of my convert husband--that I didn't leave Lutheranism. I don't want that confusion for all these kids.
I think I threw up a little in my mouth looking at the pictures.
This looks much like the same crap that I was exposed to when I went to the LCMS Nationalist Youth Brainwashing Event in New Orleans back in the late '80's. First and last one I ever went to.
Serious question - Why did the pastor go with the "old school" look by wearing vestments? Was this his "special" way to try to legitimatize this as a "worship service" and to also try to convince the crowd that this was an acceptable "Lutheran" style of worship?
Of course, I was being facetious in my comments about dancing girls. But it does seem like the Synod whether national or district level can't put on a youth gathering nowadays without some level of dancing girls.
Maybe boys are different nowadays but remembering back some 30 years to my own youth I can clearly remember what effect dancing girls would have on me. Let's just say reverence & true fear & worship of the Lord wouldn't be it.
The ballet style dancing was not the most peculiar thing. The kids in T-shirts and short doing dance moves during the "Christian rock concert" every night really bothered me. I know there's some point that I missed.
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It has been suggested to me that we shouldn't worry about this stuff because it is the Holy Spirit who works faith in us... How would you respond?
ReplyDeleteGlad to see those new measures have not touched us yet. Is this the fools' mass at the end of carnival?
ReplyDeleteDear Scott:
ReplyDeleteMaybe something like this: "The fact that God can speak from the mouth of an ass doesn't suggest that we should fire all our pastors, burn all our Bibles, and convert our churches into petting zoos."
Now if only Benny Hinn were the keynote speaker, the Pentecostal worship would have been complete.
ReplyDeleteThose pictures alarm me to no end.
My three oldest kids--17, 19, & 23-- watched/listened to this with me last night. They were all so disturbed by it that we all lost sleep because of the venting/conversation that followed. What especially bothers them is that this is what their cousins are learning to look forward to, and that these are the kids that they'll be sharing the LC-MS with in years to come.(If those kids stick around.) The sermon was bad. The service looked like an evangelical youth event with a little bit of "Lutheran" inserted. There was no reverence.
ReplyDeleteI spent my 20 & part of my 30's dealing with the confusion brought on by LYE, playing "They'll Know We Are Christians by Our Love" on my guitar in church, and my involvement with Young Life. It's only by the grace of God--and the tenacity of my convert husband--that I didn't leave Lutheranism. I don't want that confusion for all these kids.
Jane,
ReplyDeleteYour fortitude astounds! That you made it through the video is a amazing.
My wife is known to be so disturbed by such "services" that she gets nightmares. I hope you avoided that, at least.
+HRC
At least they had dancing girls. You can't have a good youth gathering without dancing girls.
ReplyDeleteDear George:
ReplyDeleteIt is, after all, just a short walk from the Superdome to Bourbon Street...
Dancing girls! I guess that's somebody's way of saying we have not abolished the mass, but . . . oh never mind.
ReplyDeleteI think I threw up a little in my mouth looking at the pictures.
ReplyDeleteThis looks much like the same crap that I was exposed to when I went to the LCMS Nationalist Youth Brainwashing Event in New Orleans back in the late '80's. First and last one I ever went to.
Serious question - Why did the pastor go with the "old school" look by wearing vestments? Was this his "special" way to try to legitimatize this as a "worship service" and to also try to convince the crowd that this was an acceptable "Lutheran" style of worship?
Of course, I was being facetious in my comments about dancing girls. But it does seem like the Synod whether national or district level can't put on a youth gathering nowadays without some level of dancing girls.
ReplyDeleteMaybe boys are different nowadays but remembering back some 30 years to my own youth I can clearly remember what effect dancing girls would have on me. Let's just say reverence & true fear & worship of the Lord wouldn't be it.
The ballet style dancing was not the most peculiar thing. The kids in T-shirts and short doing dance moves during the "Christian rock concert" every night really bothered me. I know there's some point that I missed.
ReplyDeleteIn the army, we called this sort of thing a "mass casualty event."
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