tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post3179565443764959411..comments2023-11-05T02:55:10.230-06:00Comments on Gottesdienst Online: New DDSB ResourcesPr. H. R.http://www.blogger.com/profile/16756503062523543708noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-56634998489791805832011-01-27T16:19:54.458-06:002011-01-27T16:19:54.458-06:00I might briefly add that my two hats (fedora and b...I might briefly add that my two hats (fedora and bowler) were inherited from my grandfathers who actually lived in a time of adult men wearing adult hats. In other words, I didn't buy them.Pastor Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675820871512485953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-44159761833320959902011-01-27T16:16:38.261-06:002011-01-27T16:16:38.261-06:00David let your hat troubles begone, though not ecc...David let your hat troubles begone, though not ecclesiastical, here are two reference guides:<br /><br />http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/01/bringing-back-the-hat/<br /><br />http://artofmanliness.com/2008/05/28/the-perfect-hat-for-your-ugly-mug/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-17392026541748329802011-01-27T15:51:03.064-06:002011-01-27T15:51:03.064-06:00I've been thinking about the whole hat thing m...I've been thinking about the whole hat thing more and more, and I realized that I am lost when it comes to what hat a clergyman should wear. I find myself remembering and reflecting on the fact that America has for the most part lost the culture of men wearing hats for a couple generations at least.<br /><br />Growing up in Chicago, hats worn by male youts put forth tons of information. I can still remember the different hats that me and my friends wore. (See reflecting too much brings back my Koine English!) The hat was basically an extension of your person, a reflection of your beliefs, loyalties, and the like. But ball caps all day all the time are for the world of boys and adolescents. <br /><br />Ball caps in the world of men are for when you are engaged in physical labor, outdoors, or bumming around-not while wearing a clerical. The obsession of men in our culture with never getting past adolescence and staying a man-child is a danger I assume all around here are well aware of. <br /><br />So what hat is a man to wear in formal situations, and what kinds of hats are appropriate for/befitting a pastor.<br /><br />Fedora: I'm not totally comfortable with the fedora, even though I too admit a soft spot for them. It seems too closely associated with aggression, and as Pr. Ball already said "gangster" Chicago style. It exudes adventure, daring, and many other things you probably don't want associated with the pastor.<br /><br />This whole subject leaves the clergyman bewildered, as I am now realizing I am, to what to wear outside. At the Symposia, I wore no hat. There were plenty of weird hats around, but most struck me as over the top, or that only the particular man could pull it off (or put it on).<br /><br />So what is a clergyman to wear?!? Curtis, you've opened a huge can of worms. It seems your duty to figure this out. And please, do it fast, I don’t know if I can make it back from the office outside and uncovered without at least knowing what headgear I ought to be ordering for the future.Pastor David Ramirezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01777911480825540855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-41674636631352211802011-01-27T13:33:50.160-06:002011-01-27T13:33:50.160-06:00I own a biretta (though not a beretta), as well as...I own a biretta (though not a beretta), as well as a circa 1930 fedora and bowler. This must make me an honorary Fort Wayne graduate (though perhaps I still need a pipe and a monocle). And since when are Lutherans obsessed with weaponry? Blessed Dr. Luther had some choice words on the new technology of human slaughter in his time and they were not generous.Pastor Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675820871512485953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-71459743533843606602011-01-27T10:46:40.715-06:002011-01-27T10:46:40.715-06:00Neither are cooler as they stand because they are ...Neither are cooler as they stand because they are black, they are probably hot - though you can get a straw version of the Romano, so I voted it as cooler.<br /><br />The sad fact of the poll is a poor deluded husband trying to win one over on his wife, which even if the poll bears out HR's contention... he will lose. You see its better to lose with your spouse than win because the status quo stays the same, for by winning you potentially lose in many other ways - let the reader understand.<br /><br />Of course said poll may be nominated for the 'Wrath of B. VonSchenk Award' as he always had it out for 'liturgical dressmakers' which semantically includes liturgical hatters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-86077879118502305022011-01-26T21:52:25.748-06:002011-01-26T21:52:25.748-06:00PS: A puppet show would be cooler.PS: A puppet show would be cooler.Pr. H. R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16756503062523543708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-81296219856793294662011-01-26T21:51:53.463-06:002011-01-26T21:51:53.463-06:00I can tell you are a Fort Wayne grad. Except that ...I can tell you are a Fort Wayne grad. Except that you seem not to like dorky hats - that's confusing. Did you always go to Fort Wayne? Well, at any rate, I admitted I have a soft spot for fedora's - but I don't want to give away which side I staked out in the bet with my wife.<br /><br />+HRCPr. H. R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16756503062523543708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-77470954156081981182011-01-26T21:26:25.982-06:002011-01-26T21:26:25.982-06:00I think it is pretty clear in context that the que...I think it is pretty clear in context that the question "Which is cooler?" implies that both hats are on the positive side of the cool spectrum.<br /><br />You wouldn't ask "What is cooler, a children's sermon or a puppet show in the middle of the Divine Service?" You'd ask, "Which is worse...?"<br /><br />If you can tell us that your poll honestly does not assume coolness of the two hats, I'll take you at your word. But in everyday speech, unless said with obvious sarcasm, "What is cooler...?" usually implies a comparison between two things perceived to be positively cool. <br /><br />But more at the core of my pious/pietistic concern is this thinking in the category of "cool." Very dangerous...Pastor David Ramirezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01777911480825540855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-45033275660843709102011-01-26T20:30:56.406-06:002011-01-26T20:30:56.406-06:00You guys are such Pietists.
And you can't rea...You guys are such Pietists.<br /><br />And you can't read. It just asks which is cooler. A comparative. It does not imply that either is a good idea, or cool in some ontological sense; it merely asks for a comparison. But, like Ball, I confess to a fedora.<br /><br />And Ball - how could you not tell me you were in the market for a new 9? I'll start shopping for you. . . <br /><br /><br />+HRCPr. H. R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16756503062523543708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-54517856852978184092011-01-26T17:34:23.035-06:002011-01-26T17:34:23.035-06:00I got a new black fedora that I am sporting. In t...I got a new black fedora that I am sporting. In the band I have a feather of a rooster pheasant I got this fall with my new Mossberg Silver Reserve 12 gauge over/under. <br /><br />I am in the market for a new 9mm, but I spent my Christmas money at Cabelas on a new climbing deer stand. So I'll be on the market for a long time.<br /><br />I voted for the Biretta in the poll, but I do think it is the weakest poll yet in Gottesdienst Online history, as I would not wear either headgear. The black fedora though, it makes one look all gangster up here Chicago way.The Rev. BT Ballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14699707490165113926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778905687600416321.post-850474673253069762011-01-26T15:48:53.411-06:002011-01-26T15:48:53.411-06:00How disappointed I am! I thought this week's p...How disappointed I am! I thought this week's poll was about firearms (berettas vs. Cabela's; or perhaps buying berettas at Cabelas). How disappointed I was when I learned we were being asked about pompous headress. <br /><br />Let me officially register my anti-vote, and say that continuing to buy guns (as many of you do) is far "cooler" than both these hats combined. And since when do we Lutherans care about "cool"? Isn't that usually what gets us into trouble? Is Gottesdienst really a hipster boomer movement? Disabuse me of my terror!<br /><br />I thought TGC had fearless gun toting leaders, untouched by headress-envy. But I guess we should always remember, "trust not in princes, for sooner or later they shall put on their crowns."Pastor David Ramirezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01777911480825540855noreply@blogger.com